Peyman Nasehpour:
Forlornness that has been carried on the tonbak – by Sama Babayi
Last week, Peyman
Nasehpour performed in the European Musician’s Meeting in Barcelona of Spain
that was about frame drums. In this meeting ghaval of Azerbaijan, Daf of
Kurdistan, Tamburello of Italy, Daf and Req of Arabs, Tambourine of Europe,
Adufe of Portugal and so on were discussed. Musicians from Spain, Germany,
France, Poland, Canada, USA, Panama and so on and “Peyman Nasehpour” from Iran
played in this meeting. For this reason, we have had a talk with him:
How was your
performance in Barcelona?
In the second day of the
meeting, I taught tonbak, Azerbaijani ghaval and Sufi style of daf and the
night of that day, I had tonbak, ghaval and daf solo that drumming solos were
welcomed; also I accompanied an artist from Spain, his name Juanjo Fernandez,
who was the player of a special bagpipe from the Galicia of Spain. The meeting
will be held next year too.
It seems that
the role of percussion instruments is weaker and less colorful than stringed
and bowed instruments. Why?
In the past music was
one of the branches of mathematics and it was the forth branch. Music in
theory and practice was divided into two sections; one was the
“ta’lif-e-neghmeh-ha” (composition of notes) that was the melody and the other
was the “igha” that today it is the rhythm and it was an important section of
the knowledge of music. Since the role of drums is to show the rhythms more
colorful, so they were considered very important, but unfortunately in a
period of history of music, the drums were never paid attention and to
investigate about the reasons of this historical problem needs a broad
research and this period should be named as the
“lost-ring-of-the-history-of-music”.
How many genres
of percussion instruments we have?
Generally some of them
like tonbak and daf should be considered national, while some like “damam” who
accompanies the “neyanban” (bagpipe) of Bushehr city of Iran should be
considered folkloric or regional. Of course it is possible that in future
these drums will be used in the traditional or national music and they will be
considered as national drums too.
When did this
drum found an independent character gradually?
Maestro Hosain Tehrani
revolutionized the tonbak. Before Safavid period this instrument was supported
and played but then it was forgotten and then maestro Hosain Tehrani
revolutionized the drum.
So should Hosain
Tehrani be considered as the most important character of tonbak?
Exactly! He was born in
1912 and passed away in 1974 and he should be considered as one of the most
prominent tonbak players and as I mentioned above, he revolutionized the
tonbak. He was a pioneer/modernist tonbak player who had a new style in the
art of playing the tonbak and by his solo and accompaniment performances
attracted the society in the way that every day from his time up to now new
methods and styles coming and some famous tonbak players have come up and even
the world is going to pay attention to this drum.
Despite of all
these things, it seems that there is no important role for the tonbak in many
orchestras. Why?
This is because of the
many restrictions that this instrument has had during the last centuries and
unfortunately a part of those restrictions still exists. If somebody wants to
receive a bachelor’s degree in art at any rate that person can not choose a
percussion instrument as one’s main instrument, while one can and must choose
a stringed or bowed instrument and this is a big question for me. Why cannot
somebody receive a bachelor’s degree in art, while choosing dohol as his main
instrument, whereas Dr. Courtney from USA has PhD of tabla! Why shouldn’t this
happen in Iran? Addition to this problem, I think to have percussion festivals
is a very good way that players of inside and outside of Iran can exchange
their information that they can be familiar with different styles of these
instruments, meanwhile we should have an independent committee in “Iran House
of Music”.
Are the
percussionists not a part of the committee of players in “Iran House of
Music”?
Yes they are but we
should notice that there is a difference between an instrumentalist and a
percussionist. Because percussionists play the rhythms, while the
instrumentalists play the melodies. And by considering the forlornness that
these instruments had, they will be given special attention.
Who are the
important characters of this drum in Persian music?
Maestro Abdollah Davami
(who was a great master of radif, tasnif and old style of tonbak), Agha Khan,
Agha Jan the First, Maestro Ravanbakhsh, Haji Khan Zarbgir that had the old
style and Maestro Hosain Tehrani that gave a lot of different changes to the
tonbak and he should be named as “the father of modern tonbak”, and then
Maestro Eftetah, Maestro Farhangfar and Maestro Bahman Rajabi that worked on
this drum very much.
How is the
ability of this drum in fusing with other instruments in western music?
European musicians have
a tendency in using it, because they have similar instruments such as setar,
tar, santoor and so on, but they don’t have similar percussion instruments we
have and for this reason they are interested in tonbak, tabla and tempo
(darbouka), of course they have some similar drums that are played with sticks
such as dohol and I hope tonbak like the drums of Arabic countries, India and
West Africa will have its suitable status in the modern and western music.
How many are
interested in tonbak?
The number of people who
are interested in this instrument is growing. For example Maestro Helmi, the
famous tonbak maker, has sold about 200,000 tonbaks that shows the quantity of
people who are fond of tonbak; of course tonbak despite of the other
instruments is not financially beneficial!